Dr. Jonathan A. Bagger, Krieger-Eisenhower
Professor,
Department of Physics and Astronomy,
Johns Hopkins University
Beyond the Nucleus:
Matter, Energy, Space and Time
Panel Chairman: Dr. Raymond L. Orbach, Director, Office
of Science, Department of Energy
ORBACH: The next speaker will talk on the development of high-energy
physics. Dr. Jonathan A. Bagger is the Krieger-Eisenhower
Professor from the Department of Physics and Astronomy
at Johns Hopkins University. He is also a General Councilor
of the American Physical Society, a fellow of the APS,
and a member of the Fermilab Board of Overseers. He
serves on the editorial boards of the Johns Hopkins
University Press as well as Physics Reports, the Physical
Review, and the Journal of High Energy Physics.
He’s twice been
a member of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton.
He’s held a Sloan Foundation Fellowship and an
NSF Presidential Young Investigator Award. And, indeed,
he served on three HEPAP sub-panels, several NSF advisory
panels, the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Scientific
Policy Committee and was Chair of the Division of Particles
and Fields of the American Physical Society. From ’86
to ’89 he was Associate Professor at Harvard University
and prior to that a post-doctoral research associate
at SLAC. He holds an A.B. from Dartmouth College and
a Ph.D. from Princeton University. His research interests
center on high-energy physics at the interface of theory
and experiment. He was co-chair of the HEPAP sub-panel
that developed the long-range plan for the United States
high-energy physics, “The Science Ahead, the Way
to Discovery.” His talk is titled, “Beyond
the Nucleus: Matter, Energy, Space, and Time.”
Jonathan.
BAGGER: Thank
you very much. It is an honor and a privilege to be
here today, celebrating the 50th anniversary of President
Eisenhower’s speech before the United Nations.
From the beginning, the Atom-for-Peace movement was
closely tied to nuclear and particle physics. Today,
I will tell you part of that story, as seen from the
eyes of a physicist.
But first, let us think
back to 1953, the year of President Eisenhower’s
speech. The world was coming off a terrible period of
two world wars, a Korean war, and a great depression.
Nevertheless, the first half of the century was also
a period of tremendous progress for humankind –
progress that came from harnessing the power of science.
Much of that progress came from chemistry, based on
the periodic table of the elements.
During the first half
of the century, scientists had come to understand the
periodic table in terms of atoms and nuclei, composed
of protons, neutrons, and electrons. At the time, protons,
neutrons, and electrons were the only elementary particles
– together with a few oddballs – the pions,
kaons and muons that were only seen in cosmic rays.
But 1953 was a watershed
year for particle physics. It marked the start of the
Brookhaven Cosmotron, a 3.3 GeV proton accelerator that
could recreate – in a controlled setting –
the physics of the cosmic rays. The Cosmotron was a
particle accelerator that smashed protons into stationary
targets, creating new particles via Einstein's famous
equation, E=mc2. The properties of these particles could
be carefully measured and their origins understood.
The Cosmotron and its
successors, from the Berkeley Bevatron to the Fermilab
Tevatron, were successful beyond anyone’s wildest
dreams. These accelerators unleashed a torrent of discovery
over the next half-century.
The 1950’s were
the decade of a great unraveling, as Ray said, when
the tidy picture of protons, neutrons and electrons
came apart at the seams. Accelerators produced many
hundreds of new and “elementary” particles,
siblings of protons, neutrons, pions and muons.
By the 1960’s, physicists
were searching the data for patterns and symmetries,
trying to find order in the chaos. Early in the decade,
quarks were proposed as a mathematical device for classifying
the new particles. Only later, in 1969, in a famous
experiment at SLAC, did it become clear that quarks
are real – and that protons and neutrons are not
elementary, but composed of quarks.
In the 1970’s and
1980’s, new accelerators discovered new quarks,
together with the forces that link them. Piece by piece,
a new periodic table was constructed, encoding our knowledge
of the subatomic world. Three out of four particles
in the table were discovered in the Atoms-for-Peace
era.
The international nature
of the field is reflected in the fact that the quarks,
the leptons, and the forces that link them were discovered
in laboratories across the country and around the world.
They were discovered at Brookhaven, SLAC and Fermilab
– and at Savannah River – all DOE laboratories
– as well as at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland, and
DESY in Hamburg, Germany.
The new periodic table
contains six quarks and six leptons, partners of the
electron. Protons and neutrons are composed of up and
down quarks. The quarks range in mass from millions
of electron volts to billions of electron volts, with
the top quark weighing in at 175 GeV, as much as an
atom of gold. The leptons range in mass from a fraction
of a single electron volt, to more than a million electron
volts. The quarks and leptons interact via four forces,
also carried by particles.
The final pieces fell
into place in the 1990’s. The top quark was discovered
at the Fermilab Tevatron, a four-mile-long accelerator
more than 1,000 times more powerful than the Cosmotron.
The Tevatron is a technological tour-de-force. It accelerates
protons and antiprotons – matter and antimatter
– to near the speed of light, and then collides
them head-on-head in beams of particles thinner than
a human hair.
The results of the collisions
are recorded in particle detectors and analyzed by teams
of physicists from around the globe. In fact, true to
the spirit of Atoms-for-Peace, almost half the physicists
using the Tevatron are from foreign countries. They
bring resources from their countries to the United States,
all in the pursuit of science.
So today, where do we
stand, after these 50 years? I believe that we stand
at a crossroads in the history of science.
• First and foremost,
we have a new periodic table of subatomic physics,
along with a precise and quantitative knowledge of
how the pieces fit together. History will record this
as one of the crowning achievements of 20th century
science.
• Beyond that,
we have advances in technological development that
affect us all.
o Today, there are
over 15,000 particle accelerators in the world,
contributing to medicine, materials science, environmental
science and even biology.
o Particle detection
techniques are essential to the fast-moving field
of medical diagnostics.
o The world-wide web
was invented by particle physicists and given to
the world – to facilitate communication and
coordination of far-flung collaborations.
I know first hand that
particle physics provides big ideas that pull young
people into science. Such technically trained students
are essential for economic security and national defense.
The advances of the last
50 years have brought us to the point where we can ask
bold new questions about the structure of matter, energy,
space and time. Without doubt, we have a firm foundation
for the science ahead. We can look forward, in the words
of Keats, “.... like stout Cortez, when with eagle
eyes // He star'd at the Pacific – and all his
men // Look'd at each other with a wild surmise –
// Silent, upon a peak in Darien.”
For example, we know that
the two pillars of twentieth century physics –
quantum mechanics and Einstein's relativity –
are inconsistent with each other. The only known resolution
is string theory, in which the elementary particles
are nothing but the vibrations of tiny strings. String
theory, though, requires that we live in more than four
spacetime dimensions. The discovery of extra dimensions
would be an epochal event in human history.
Where are the extra dimensions?
How many are there? How are they hidden? What are their
shapes and sizes? Such questions are moving from science
fiction to science fact.
Cosmology provides another
example: During the last 50 years, particle physics
and cosmology have grown increasingly intertwined. As
we look at the cosmos, we look back in time, to an earlier
epoch – before planets, before stars, before atoms,
and even before nuclei, back to a time when the Universe
itself was a soup of quarks and leptons. To understand
our Universe, we need to understand the physics of its
most basic ingredients.
Today, as we gaze at the
cosmos, we glimpse the future of particle physics. Cosmologists
tell us that most of the energy in the Universe is dark:
Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Dark Matter is like ordinary
matter in that its gravitational interactions pull the
Universe together. Dark Energy is something else entirely.
It's like antigravity, in that its gravitational interactions
blast the universe apart.
What are the Dark Matter
and Dark Energy? They are not in the periodic table
of quarks and leptons.
Dark Matter most likely
consists of stable new particles with weak interactions
and masses of about 1,000 GeV. Such particles, streaming
through the Universe, left over from the Big Bang, have
just the right properties to account for the cosmological
observations. Dark Energy, on the other hand, is a total
mystery. It is related to the energy of space itself....
Cosmological observations
tell us that the Universe is 4% quarks and leptons,
23% Dark Matter, and 73% Dark Energy. I find this humbling:
the stuff that we are made of is but a tiny part of
the Universe. I find it exciting to know that most of
the Universe is composed of a new form of energy, unlike
anything we have seen to date.
To quote the famous cosmologist
William Shakespeare, in Hamlet, “There are more
things in heaven and earth, Horatio, // Than are dreamt
of in your philosophy.”
What are the Dark Matter
and Dark Energy? These questions will drive particle
physics for the next 50 years. As we tease out this
thread, who knows what we will find. But these questions
seem to me to be completely within the mission of the
Department of Energy – and ripe for exploration,
in partnership with NSF, NASA, and the world community.
The first step towards
exposing the dark side of the Universe is to characterize
the Dark Matter. Astrophysicists have proven that it
exists, and they are trying to observe the Dark Matter
particles as they stream through detectors here on Earth.
But what we really need is to produce Dark Matter and
measure its properties in laboratories here on Earth.
That requires accelerators with the energy necessary
to produce the particles – just like 50 years
ago, when the Brookhaven Cosmotron began to unravel
the story behind the cosmic rays.
Astronomers use radiation
of different wavelengths to observe the Universe. So
too do particle physicists use different probes. To
characterize the Dark Matter, they need proton and electron
accelerators, working in tandem, each revealing part
of the picture.
The proton side of the
equation is covered by the CERN LHC. Come 2007, the
LHC, located in Geneva Switzerland, will become the
world's highest-energy accelerator. With a power almost
ten times that of the Fermilab Tevatron, the LHC will
provide a first glimpse of this new landscape. Although
primarily a European machine, the LHC was constructed
with important assistance, both financial and technological,
from American physicists. Indeed, almost 20% of the
LHC users are American.
The electron side requires
a Linear Collider. A series of studies – in Europe,
Asia, and the United States – has concluded that
a Linear Collider is essential to characterize the Dark
Matter that pervades the Universe. In this sense, the
Linear Collider is the true Dark Matter Microscope,
necessary to resolve this new type of matter.
The Linear Collider is
the first fully international project in particle physics.
Scientists from each region have committed themselves
to work on the machine – wherever in the world
it is built. They are working together to refine its
design.
The machine is of such
a scale that the resources – both human and financial
– require the full commitment of the world community
– in the best spirit of Atoms for Peace.
In 1953, President Eisenhower
faced a budget deficit and a tense international arena.
In spite of that – or perhaps even because of
it – he committed the United States to the Atoms
for Peace program. “I know that the American people
share my deep belief that if a danger exists in the
world, it is a danger shared by all; and equally, that
if hope exists in the mind of one nation, that hope
should be shared by all. ... [The] United States pledges
before you ... to devote its entire heart and mind to
finding the way by which the miraculous inventiveness
of man shall not be dedicated to his death, but consecrated
to his life.”
The Atoms-for-Peace movement
led, in 1954, to the establishment of CERN, the European
particle physics laboratory, an organization that now
leads the world in particle physics – and has
helped knit together the European continent for 50 years.
Even today, the Atoms-for-Peace
ideal is reflected in the flags of the nations that
work at Fermilab. It transcends regional conflict, through
projects like the recent string theory conference in
Teheran, and the Middle Eastern Light Source, SESAME,
in Jordan, whose founding states include Bahrain, Egypt,
Iran, Israel, Jordan, Pakistan, Palestinian Authority,
Turkey, and United Arab Emirates. Where else but physics
could these nations meet on common ground?
It is my fervent hope
that, after today, the United States will recommit itself
to the ideals of Atoms for Peace. From Lewis and Clark
to Shepard and Glenn, the United States has been at
the forefront of scientific exploration. Today, scientific
leadership requires resources, to be sure, but it also
requires the political will to help scientists create
the structures necessary to do their job.
I believe that particle
physics represents one of the most successful areas
of international cooperation. From the pivotal role
of CERN in postwar Europe to the global collaborations
of today, particle physicists have a history of working
together with great success. Even today, physicists
designing on the Linear Collider are breaking new ground
in international partnership.
At the beginning of the
last century, few understood how scientific research
would fundamentally change the world. But continued
and consistent investments in science helped make the
United States what it is today. As we head into the
new millennium, few doubt that scientific research will
remake our world yet again. It is our choice whether
we want to help make this world – or retreat from
it. I think the choice is clear. Thank you.
[applause]
Questions and
Answers: ORBACH: The floor is now open for questions.
KRISCH:
My name is Alan Krisch. I’m a physics professor
at the University of Michigan. One important benefit
of the Atoms for Peace proposal was the start of exchange
visits between Russian and American scientists and students,
especially in high-energy and nuclear physics. This
seemed an excellent and successful example of what Susan
Eisenhower this morning mentioned as her father’s
hope that the Atoms for Peace program would build good
relations between scientists and students who would
later become scientific leaders and help to have better
relations between the two sides of the Iron Curtain.
I think this worked.
I’ve been involved
in this program since the late 1960s. Unfortunately,
this mutually beneficial exchange was significantly
reduced when the now expired “Department of Energy
/ Minatom Peaceful Use of Atomic Energy Memorandum of
Cooperation” was not signed when it was expired
in February, 2002. Has any progress been made in getting
this signed again so this can continue?
ORBACH: I think the question was addressed at me and not the
panel. Would any members of the panel like to respond
to that? [laughter] Yes, there is progress and, in fact,
in today’s newspaper you will see one of the reasons
why that progress will now accelerate. Thank you.
Are there other questions
addressed to the panel? Yes.
GERKY: Bob Gerky, INNEL, to one of the three panelists. We’ve
heard a lot about, where did the water come from on
Earth? And I’d be curious as to what the latest
thinking is. There are some who have said the water
on Earth has come from comets. Does that hold any water?
ORBACH: Michael?
TURNER: I’m looking for an astronomer or planetary scientist
on my left side here but I don’t see one. Well,
it certainly came from the quarks [laughter] in the
Big Bang and it went through the Big Bang nucleosynthesis.
I cannot tell you what the best idea for where the water
on Earth came from. I can only tell you the early origin
of water, which is extremely exciting.
__: Is
there any reason that it should have come from any different
place than all the rest of the elements that we have
here on Earth?
TURNER: Well, chemistry plays an important role in the formation
of the solar system because some of the elements are
more volatile than other elements. So, here on Earth
we don’t see the primordial mix. Most of the atoms
in the universe are hydrogen. We certainly don’t
see that here on Earth. But the Earth’s gravity
isn’t strong enough to hold the hydrogen and the
helium, whereas in the sun and in the giant planets
it’s possible. So, chemistry plays a very important
role in what we see here.
ORBACH: Questions? As Chairman, then, I am going to take the
liberty of asking my own, which has been driving me
nuts for five years. I would like to ask the panel to
speculate on just what this dark energy is.
TURNER: Well, I think my son’s idea is pretty good.
ORBACH: Are we really that bereft of ideas?
TURNER: No, I think we are at the phase right now where we need
a really crazy idea. One of the exciting things about
science is that when you get the very toughest problems,
they involve some creative break, thinking outside of
the box. So I tell this to graduate students and undergraduates
– and I also put a footnote saying, “Not
every crazy idea is a solution to a profound problem.
Some of them are just crazy ideas.”
The range of things that
we’re thinking about start with something as mundane
as the energy of the quantum vacuum. The problem there
is that Jonathan and his friends can’t calculate
how much the quantum vacuum weighs. When they try to
calculate it they get an absurdly large number before
they say it must be zero.
[Laughter] It could also
be a milder form of inflation. And an idea that I really,
really like, because it seems crazy enough to be correct,
is that there is no dark energy; we just don’t
understand gravity. And that theme, again, that Jonathan
was talking about, was that this marriage between gravity
and quantum mechanics will require a modification of
general relativity. If you’d asked Jonathan and
his colleagues five years ago where that modification
would be, they would have said, “Oh, it is going
to be at very, very short distances. It’s not
going to affect the cosmos.”
But you never know where
the clues are going to come from and this could be the
clue that tells us about how we have to modify general
relativity. And so I think that the solution to this
problem is not that we go back and look at Jonathan’s
paper and find in page five that there is a two that
should have been a 1.5. I think it’s that we find
something out very profound about matter, space, time
and energy.
BAGGER: Mike is completely right about that. I displayed a graph,
which showed quarks and leptons and so forth, but that
was really just a schematic for a whole structure that
allows you to do calculations that are tested at experiments
to better than a tenth of a percent level. And that
whole structure completely breaks down on the subject
of dark energy. As Mike was saying, if you use that,
basically, you find that the dark energy should be infinite
– and in particle theory if it is infinite, well,
maybe it’s zero; you missed something.
The fact that it’s
not zero and it’s not infinite, is something that
is just completely beyond anything that we can understand
and so something brand new has to happen and we just
don’t have a clue what it is.
ORBACH: Are there other questions?
__: Well,
it is sort of a comment. I’m an experimenter so
I don’t really believe much of anything that can’t
be measured. There was an article in Scientific American
within the last year and I’m bad with names so
I forget the guy’s name but he proposed a good
solution would be to have a very small extra term to
Newton’s Law that deviates from it at large distances.
As far as I know there is no direct experiment that
shows that you can’t have something which would
only cause deviations from Newton’s Law nearby.
And a bunch of my theory
colleagues dumped on me and started explaining why that
couldn’t work but I think it is something to look
at.
BAGGER: The
problem is that the violence you have to do to the theory
must be consistent with a suite of precisions measurements
that have been made so far. And that imposes constraints.
You have to be consistent. Yet, I agree. The answer
has got to be crazy. There is not much wiggle room –
but there is a hole somewhere and we have to find it.
ORBACH: I think one has to be careful of empirical fits. I mean
you can play games with the laws – but why? –
was my response when I read the article. It was certainly
a clever argument but it doesn’t answer anything.
In the same way that the cosmological constant can change
the sign and give you expansion, yet it doesn’t
tell you where it comes from and that is what these
gentlemen have been struggling with. But you actually
said something, Michael, that was quite, and, again,
Jonathan, quite extraordinary. You believe that the
structure of general relativity may be inaccurate.
TURNER: Well, certainly in science we know that at any given
point in time, our description of the natural world
is just an approximation and what’s exciting about
the scientific process is that it is never over. Newton
wasn’t wrong; he just didn’t get the whole
story. In science successive theories eat their predecessors
whole if we are doing our job right. And so, Einstein
just didn’t get the whole story. He got a big,
big, chunk that we’re still trying to swallow.
We’re still trying to understand black holes and
their meaning and we’re still trying to understand
the Big Bang.
But I think if you took
a poll among physicists, I think most of us would say,
Einstein didn’t get it all. He did not have the
last word on gravity and we have more to learn and we’re
looking for clues and maybe the cosmic speed-up is a
clue to tell us which direction to go.
BAGGER: Also it’s quite possible that the cosmological
constant is related to extra dimensions, because then
it’s a question of how our four-dimensional world
is embedded in a higher dimensional space. Again, we
don’t know.
ORBACH: In the spirit of experiment, can you give us some clues
as to how these extra dimensions might actually be observed?
BAGGER: Well, in particle physics, everything shows up as a
particle. So, actually, if they are the right size,
the extra dimensions could be seen as a set of new particles
at new accelerators like the LHC, or they could be seen
through deviations from Newton’s Laws using table-top
experiments, depending on the type of new dimensions
we are talking about. They might be so small that they
are only seen indirectly here or there. We don’t
know.
Previously, people thought
that these extra dimensions had to be so small that,
well, you basically couldn’t see them. But recently
theorists have figured out how they can be infinitely
large and you still won’t know that they’re
there. And so the story is wide, wide open.
ORBACH: Further questions? Yes.
DOWNEY: Jim
Downey, again, at Harvard. And I would have to say I’m
not much of a string theorist except for when it involves
tying my shoes. My question is a follow-on to that.
It seems from what I have read about string theory that
one of the flaws is that it’s heavy on the word
theory and that experiments to validate it are extremely
limited. I’m wondering if we have to find multiple
universes or if we can be comfortable at some point
with the fact that this may, in fact, be the only universe
that ever was.
BAGGER: String theory is, at this point, so early in its development
that one can’t even say, really, what it predicts.
How it connects to experiments, we don’t know.
It’s more of also a paradigm at this point, than
an actual precise theory with predictions. We’ll
have to see. Time will tell how it fits in, how it is
detected, if it’s detected.
TURNER: To comment on your multi-verse possibility, I think
what intrigues people are the questions that string
theory addresses and the mathematical beauty. Then if
you marry string theory with this idea of inflation
that I was talking about, you could have had multiple
Big Bangs and the rules, what we call the laws of physics,
the local bylaws of physics, could be different in the
different inflationary events and so the universe could
have a structure that is infinitely larger than we can
imagine. If this is so, this would be a breakthrough
on the same level of Copernicus, getting us out of the
center of the universe and the idea that there a multi-verse
structure would bring us back down to Earth.
As you say, we can’t
test that yet. So it’s this intriguing idea because
the hallmark of science is testability. And so I think
you even find string theorists who are desperate to
find little ways to test the theory because you have
to test these ideas in science.
BAGGER: Is
that idea just giving up? There are billions of universes
and this one is the way it is just because it is? Are
we giving up to say that?
TURNER:
Well, you’re talking about the anthropic principle,
which I’m not a fan of–
BAGGER: Well, it’s related to what you are saying.
TURNER: If the universe has this multi-universe structure that
you asked about, and we’re very far from saying
that, then it’s a fact of nature that we have
to accept. So, let’s wait and see if we have to
accept that fact.
ORBACH: There’s a book by Martin Rees called The Six Numbers
that Determine the Universe, which raises this question,
pointing out that these six numbers, which are the cause
for existence, are accurate to an incredible limit for
us to exist. And, therefore, why those six, which forms
the basis for the second book that he wrote, and I refer
you to that.
RICHTER: Burt Richter from Stanford. The whole history of physics
is the history of metaphysics turning into physics because
of experiments. And right now what we are suffering
from is a dearth of experiments because the experiments
are getting more complicated, bigger, and more expensive.
My poor theory colleagues don’t have any data
to anchor them and so they are floating in the ether
– multi-verses and strings and all the rest of
that sort of thing.
But sitting up there is
one person controlling the budget of the Department
of Energy, another person controlling the budget in
certain areas of the National Science Foundation and
what we’ve got coming along now are not only things
like the LHC, this great accelerator, but we’re
going to have new telescopes, we’re going to have
new X-ray satellites. And I think in the next ten or
15 years, I wish it were faster, we’re going to
have some new facts and new facts are going to bring
some of my theory friends back from floating around
in the ether to having to make contact, once again,
with the real world and then we’re going to start
to move to a new concept.
TURNER: I hate to dispute. I hate to disagree with Burt Richter.
You’re absolutely right. We have wonderful possibilities
in front of us and we have a plate that is very, very
full and we will have a hard time getting everything
done. But I think what’s very exciting in this
connection between the quarks and the cosmos, is that
this astronomical fact that the universe is speeding
up is not just of interest to astronomers but it’s
of great interest, as you well know, to your theorists.
Maybe it’s not the
clue that they wanted. Maybe they wanted the Higgs particle
first, but science is always disorderly and so we’ve
got other clues coming in, the dark matter, the dark
energy. But I take your point on the possibilities before
us and finding a way to carry out the experiments and
realize our dreams.
ORBACH: I’m
going to have Rob Goldston ask the last question.
GOLDSTON: Some areas of particle physics are deferring from making
predictions yet and there are these 17 or 19, depending
on how you want to count them, basic numbers that are
behind the standard theory. We had Roger Penrose come
to Princeton and he took the occasion to go after string
theory as being irrelevant. That was kind of an interesting
experience at Princeton. But I asked him this question
and his answer – And I’m curious what your
answer is – Since we can’t have a prediction,
how about a meta-prediction, so to speak, a prediction
about the predictions. When will one of these numbers
come out of string theory? The first one?
[pause]
ORBACH: Would you like me to predict when Jonathan will answer
this question? [laughter]
GOLDSTON: So to speak, a meta, meta-prediction.
BAGGER: To
be honest, I’m not a string theorist. So I’m
backpedaling fast. I actually believe in effective field
theory. I’m more like a condensed matter physicist,
mucking around with my effective Hamiltonian that describes
the standard model. I can use it to see great things
coming with the next factor ten in energy. But to get
all the way to the string theory scale is more than
I can imagine. Nevertheless, I can use string theory
for inspiration and take the big picture of string theory
and use it as a guide. To do detailed calculations,
that’s like trying to derive chemistry from quarks
and leptons. There are many steps in between. It will
be very hard.
ORBACH: As
one of those guys who mucks around with materials, let
me thank the members of the panel and all of you in
the audience. I think Burt Richter’s plea, that
this will come faster than 15 years, is upon us. We
have four to five more years of operation of Fermilab.
These issues, these new particles, the experiments that
have been called for may well emerge from that. One
has, as you saw, the large hadron collider at CERN,
and the possibility of the linear collider in parallel.
We have in front of us machines and theories that address
the very fundamentals of our existence. It’s an
exciting time to be alive and I thank you all for joining
us this afternoon.